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Je vous propose de nous écrire à Cette adresse e-mail est protégée contre les robots spammeurs. Vous devez activer le JavaScript pour la visualiser. et de nous envoyer votre fichier DB ainsi que votre fichier eplusout.err qui contient les erreurs de la simulation (vous le trouvez dans DB en cliquant sur Fichier/répertoire/energy+).

Merci !

Bonjour,
Je n'arrive pas à vous envoyer la copie d'écran en pièce jointe!

Program Version,EnergyPlusDLL-32 8.1.0.008, 15/01/2015 16:45,IDD_Version 8.1.0.008
** Warning ** Timestep: Requested number (2) is less than the suggested minimum of 4.
** ~~~ ** Please see entry for Timestep in Input/Output Reference for discussion of considerations.
************* Beginning Zone Sizing Calculations
** Warning ** Site:GroundTemperature:BuildingSurface: Some values fall outside the range of 15-25C.
** ~~~ ** These values may be inappropriate. Please consult the Input Output Reference for more details.
** Warning ** Weather file location will be used rather than entered (IDF) Location object.
** ~~~ ** ..Location object=AMT L11
** ~~~ ** ..Weather File Location=Paris-Montsouris - FRA MN6 WMO#=71560
** ~~~ ** ..due to location differences, Latitude difference=[0.15] degrees, Longitude difference=[0.12] degrees.
** ~~~ ** ..Time Zone difference=[0.0] hour(s), Elevation difference=[15.38] percent, [10.00] meters.
** Warning ** Detached shading effects are ignored when Solar Distribution = MinimalShadowing
** Warning ** GetSurfaceData: Construction DALLE 20+8_REVERSED of interzone surface BASNIVEAU0:LTDGPRA_CEILING_4_0_0 does not have the same materials in the reverse order as the construction DALLE 20+8_REVERSED_REV of adjacent surface ETAGE:REFECTOIRE_FLOOR_1_0_10040
** ~~~ ** ...but Nominal U values are similar, diff=[0.0000] ... simulation proceeds.
** ~~~ ** ...if the two zones are expected to have significantly different temperatures, the proper "reverse" construction should be created.
** ~~~ ** ...this problem for this pair will not be reported again.
** Warning ** GetSurfaceData: Construction CLOISON BÉTON CÉLLULAIRE R FIXÉ 1.0_REV of interzone surface ATELIER:HALL4VOIES_PARTITION_19_0_0 does not have the same materials in the reverse order as the construction CLOISON BÉTON CÉLLULAIRE R FIXÉ 1.0 of adjacent surface ETAGE:REFECTOIRE_PARTITION_10_0_10215
** ~~~ ** ...but Nominal U values are similar, diff=[0.0000] ... simulation proceeds.
** ~~~ ** ...this problem for this pair will not be reported again.
** Warning ** GetSurfaceData: CAUTION -- Interzone surfaces are occuring in the same zone(s).
** ~~~ ** ...use Output:Diagnostics,DisplayExtraWarnings; to show more details on individual occurrences.
** Warning ** GetSurfaceData: Entered Zone Floor Areas differ from calculated Zone Floor Area(s).
** ~~~ ** ...use Output:Diagnostics,DisplayExtraWarnings; to show more details on individual zones.
** Warning ** CheckUsedConstructions: There are 19 nominally unused constructions in input.
** ~~~ ** For explicit details on each unused construction, use Output:Diagnostics,DisplayExtraWarnings;
** Warning ** GetDetailedDaylighting: Reference Map point #[1], X Value outside Zone Min/Max X, Zone=BUREAUXNO:B.TECHNICIEN
** ~~~ ** ...X Reference Point= -0.26, Zone Minimum X= -0.20, Zone Maximum X= 8.44
** ~~~ ** ...X Reference Distance Outside MinimumX= 5.5750E-002 m.
** Warning ** GetDetailedDaylighting: Reference Map point #[1], X Value outside Zone Min/Max X, Zone=BUREAUXNO:B.ORDONNANCEMENT
** ~~~ ** ...X Reference Point= -2.59, Zone Minimum X= -2.43, Zone Maximum X= 5.94
** ~~~ ** ...X Reference Distance Outside MinimumX= 0.1537 m.
** Warning ** GetDetailedDaylighting: Reference Map point #[1], X Value outside Zone Min/Max X, Zone=BUREAUXNO:B.ENCADREMENT
** ~~~ ** ...X Reference Point= -4.09, Zone Minimum X= -3.92, Zone Maximum X= 4.12
** ~~~ ** ...X Reference Distance Outside MinimumX= 0.1795 m.
** Warning ** GetDetailedDaylighting: Reference Map point #[1], X Value outside Zone Min/Max X, Zone=BUREAUXNO:B.ADJOINT
** ~~~ ** ...X Reference Point= -5.28, Zone Minimum X= -5.17, Zone Maximum X= 2.18
** ~~~ ** ...X Reference Distance Outside MinimumX= 0.1092 m.
** Warning ** GetDetailedDaylighting: Reference Map point #[1], X Value outside Zone Min/Max X, Zone=BUREAUXNO:B.RESPONSABLE
** ~~~ ** ...X Reference Point= -6.71, Zone Minimum X= -6.56, Zone Maximum X= 0.54
** ~~~ ** ...X Reference Distance Outside MinimumX= 0.1507 m.
** Warning ** GetDetailedDaylighting: Reference Map point #[100], X Value outside Zone Min/Max X, Zone=BASNIVEAU0:HALLETDEGAGEMENT
** ~~~ ** ...X Reference Point= 109.37, Zone Minimum X= 44.10, Zone Maximum X= 107.64
** ~~~ ** ...X Reference Distance Outside MaximumX= 1.7331 m.
** Warning ** GetDetailedDaylighting: Reference Map point #[1], X Value outside Zone Min/Max X, Zone=BASNIVEAU0:DEGAGEMENTISB22
** ~~~ ** ...X Reference Point= 1.32, Zone Minimum X= 4.75, Zone Maximum X= 17.41
** ~~~ ** ...X Reference Distance Outside MinimumX= 3.4269 m.
** Warning ** GetDetailedDaylighting: Reference Map point #[100], X Value outside Zone Min/Max X, Zone=BASNIVEAU0:LTCHMAGASIN
** ~~~ ** ...X Reference Point= 36.33, Zone Minimum X= 21.95, Zone Maximum X= 34.51
** ~~~ ** ...X Reference Distance Outside MaximumX= 1.8200 m.
** Warning ** GetDetailedDaylighting: Reference Map point #[1], X Value outside Zone Min/Max X, Zone=BASNIVEAU0:LTNCMONTAGEPNEUS
** ~~~ ** ...X Reference Point= 33.21, Zone Minimum X= 35.02, Zone Maximum X= 44.84
** ~~~ ** ...X Reference Distance Outside MinimumX= 1.8158 m.
** Warning ** GetDetailedDaylighting: Reference point X Value outside Zone Min/Max X, Zone=BASNIVEAU0:LTDGSIGNALISATION
** ~~~ ** ...X Reference Point= 89.42, Zone Minimum X= 75.83, Zone Maximum X= 88.31
** ~~~ ** ...X Reference Distance Outside MaximumX= 1.1115 m.
** Warning ** GetDetailedDaylighting: Reference Map point #[1], X Value outside Zone Min/Max X, Zone=BASNIVEAU0:LTCHPLR1
** ~~~ ** ...X Reference Point= 15.79, Zone Minimum X= 15.82, Zone Maximum X= 31.63
** ~~~ ** ...X Reference Distance Outside MinimumX= 2.2890E-002 m.
** Warning ** GetDetailedDaylighting: Reference Map point #[100], X Value outside Zone Min/Max X, Zone=BASNIVEAU0:LTNCFCHAUFFAGE
** ~~~ ** ...X Reference Point= 71.50, Zone Minimum X= 61.01, Zone Maximum X= 69.99
** ~~~ ** ...X Reference Distance Outside MaximumX= 1.5086 m.
** Warning ** GetDetailedDaylighting: Reference Map point #[100], X Value outside Zone Min/Max X, Zone=ETAGE:REUNION
** ~~~ ** ...X Reference Point= 102.16, Zone Minimum X= 92.35, Zone Maximum X= 101.67
** ~~~ ** ...X Reference Distance Outside MaximumX= 0.4858 m.
** Warning ** GetDetailedDaylighting: Reference Map point #[1], X Value outside Zone Min/Max X, Zone=ETAGE:DEGAGEMENT
** ~~~ ** ...X Reference Point= 67.01, Zone Minimum X= 67.01, Zone Maximum X= 97.68
** ~~~ ** ...X Reference Distance Outside MinimumX= 4.4622E-003 m. ** ~~~ ** ...X Reference Point= -5.28, Zone Minimum X= -5.17, Zone Maximum X= 2.18
** ~~~ ** ...X Reference Distance Outside MinimumX= 0.1092 m.
** Warning ** GetDetailedDaylighting: Reference Map point #[1], X Value outside Zone Min/Max X, Zone=BUREAUXNO:B.RESPONSABLE
** ~~~ ** ...X Reference Point= -6.71, Zone Minimum X= -6.56, Zone Maximum X= 0.54
** ~~~ ** ...X Reference Distance Outside MinimumX= 0.1507 m.
** Warning ** GetDetailedDaylighting: Reference Map point #[100], X Value outside Zone Min/Max X, Zone=BASNIVEAU0:HALLETDEGAGEMENT
** ~~~ ** ...X Reference Point= 109.37, Zone Minimum X= 44.10, Zone Maximum X= 107.64
** ~~~ ** ...X Reference Distance Outside MaximumX= 1.7331 m.
** Warning ** GetDetailedDaylighting: Reference Map point #[1], X Value outside Zone Min/Max X, Zone=BASNIVEAU0:DEGAGEMENTISB22
** ~~~ ** ...X Reference Point= 1.32, Zone Minimum X= 4.75, Zone Maximum X= 17.41
** ~~~ ** ...X Reference Distance Outside MinimumX= 3.4269 m.
** Warning ** GetDetailedDaylighting: Reference Map point #[100], X Value outside Zone Min/Max X, Zone=BASNIVEAU0:LTCHMAGASIN
** ~~~ ** ...X Reference Point= 36.33, Zone Minimum X= 21.95, Zone Maximum X= 34.51
** ~~~ ** ...X Reference Distance Outside MaximumX= 1.8200 m.
** Warning ** GetDetailedDaylighting: Reference Map point #[1], X Value outside Zone Min/Max X, Zone=BASNIVEAU0:LTNCMONTAGEPNEUS
** ~~~ ** ...X Reference Point= 33.21, Zone Minimum X= 35.02, Zone Maximum X= 44.84
** ~~~ ** ...X Reference Distance Outside MinimumX= 1.8158 m.
** Warning ** GetDetailedDaylighting: Reference point X Value outside Zone Min/Max X, Zone=BASNIVEAU0:LTDGSIGNALISATION
** ~~~ ** ...X Reference Point= 89.42, Zone Minimum X= 75.83, Zone Maximum X= 88.31
** ~~~ ** ...X Reference Distance Outside MaximumX= 1.1115 m.
** Warning ** GetDetailedDaylighting: Reference Map point #[1], X Value outside Zone Min/Max X, Zone=BASNIVEAU0:LTCHPLR1
** ~~~ ** ...X Reference Point= 15.79, Zone Minimum X= 15.82, Zone Maximum X= 31.63
** ~~~ ** ...X Reference Distance Outside MinimumX= 2.2890E-002 m.
** Warning ** GetDetailedDaylighting: Reference Map point #[100], X Value outside Zone Min/Max X, Zone=BASNIVEAU0:LTNCFCHAUFFAGE
** ~~~ ** ...X Reference Point= 71.50, Zone Minimum X= 61.01, Zone Maximum X= 69.99
** ~~~ ** ...X Reference Distance Outside MaximumX= 1.5086 m.
** Warning ** GetDetailedDaylighting: Reference Map point #[100], X Value outside Zone Min/Max X, Zone=ETAGE:REUNION
** ~~~ ** ...X Reference Point= 102.16, Zone Minimum X= 92.35, Zone Maximum X= 101.67
** ~~~ ** ...X Reference Distance Outside MaximumX= 0.4858 m.
** Warning ** GetDetailedDaylighting: Reference Map point #[1], X Value outside Zone Min/Max X, Zone=ETAGE:DEGAGEMENT
** ~~~ ** ...X Reference Point= 67.01, Zone Minimum X= 67.01, Zone Maximum X= 97.68
** ~~~ ** ...X Reference Distance Outside MinimumX= 4.4622E-003 m.

Bonjour,

Est-il possible d'avoir une copie d'écran du message d'erreur?

Cela doit être lié à une surchauffe du plancher.

Bonjour,
Lorsque je fusionne les zones connectées par des trous, DB plante avec un message "arrêt anormal contacter le support" alors que la simulation se faisait auparavent.
Je suppose que c'est lié à la forme des sheds, comment puis je faire ?

Pour les blocs qui restent vous pouvez utiliser l'outil fusion de zone en cochant la case "fusionner les zones connectées par des trous".

Effectivement, si vous avez plusieurs blocs séparés par des trous les apports solaires ne seront pas répartis.

En faisant tout cela, je pense que votre modèle sera cohérent.

merci bien pour les conseils sur les deux premières questions,
j'ai essayé le boléen union pour faire un seul bloc mais cela n'a pas fonctionné pour tous les blocs !
d'après votre réponse je comprends que les apports solaires et donc les températures intérieures ne sont pas bien prisent en compte dans la zone du hall si la zone est constituées de plusieurs blocs ?