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06 Juil 2015 16:26 #1 par csater
Re: Simulation besoin de chauffage
Merci beaucoup pour votre réponse Laurent !

Salutations distinguées

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12 Jui 2015 15:18 #2 par Laurent
Re: Simulation besoin de chauffage
Bonjour,

Dans ce cas, chercher le permier message qui commence par SEVERE, c'est lui qui a du arrêté la simulation.

Ici : ** Severe ** Temperature (low) out of bounds [-239.89] for zone="BLOC15:ZONE1", for surface="BLOC15:ZONE1_WALL_9_0_0"

Il s'agit de la température d'un mur situé en Bloc 15:Zone 1. E+ n'arrive pas à converger au contraire il s'arrête après avoir atteint -239,89°C.

Cela peut être du à plusieurs raisons dont les deux plus courantes sont :
* les couches de matériau du mur alternent isolant et masse d'inertie très important
* les apports solaires se concentrent sur une toute petite surface

Pour trouver le mur, cliquez sur les différents murs de la zone en ayant cliqué sur l'onglet Sortie.
Le nom codé est affiché dans la rubrique Simulation.

Il faut donc voir si en remplaçant un matériau saisie en détaillé (lambda, densité, capacité calorifique) par un identique saisi en résistance, le problème perdure. Ou bien vérifiez les paramètres de ces matériaux si jamais elles sont exagérées.

Cordiales salutations,

Laurent

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12 Jui 2015 13:31 #3 par csater
csater a créé le sujet : Simulation besoin de chauffage
Bonjour,
je suis débutant sur le logiciel Design Builder et il m'est arrivé un message d'erreur lors d'une simulation dans le but d'obtenir les besoins de chauffage d'un bâtiment.
Pouvez vous m'éclairer sur les différents messages d'erreurs et éventuellement d'où peut venir la source ?
Je vous remercie d'avance pour votre précieuse aide !

Program Version,EnergyPlusDLL-32 8.1.0.008, 12/06/2015 12:16,IDD_Version 8.1.0.008
** Warning ** Timestep: Requested number (2) is less than the suggested minimum of 4.
** ~~~ ** Please see entry for Timestep in Input/Output Reference for discussion of considerations.
************* Beginning Zone Sizing Calculations
** Warning ** GetSurfaceData: Construction PROJET DE CLOISON of interzone surface 5R%2COMBLES:ZONE3_PARTITION_9_0_0 does not have the same materials in the reverse order as the construction PROJET DE CLOISON_REV of adjacent surface 5R%2COMBLES:ZONE2_PARTITION_2_0_10036
** ~~~ ** ...but Nominal U values are similar, diff=[0.0000] ... simulation proceeds.
** ~~~ ** ...if the two zones are expected to have significantly different temperatures, the proper "reverse" construction should be created.
** ~~~ ** ...this problem for this pair will not be reported again.
** Warning ** GetSurfaceData: Construction PLANCHER INTERNE HDV ST BRIEUC_REVERSED of interzone surface 5R%2COMBLES:ZONE3_FLOOR_0_0_0 does not have the same materials in the reverse order as the construction PLANCHER INTERNE HDV ST BRIEUC_REVERSED_REV of adjacent surface 4R%4:ZONE14_CEILING_7_0_10000
** ~~~ ** ...but Nominal U values are similar, diff=[0.0000] ... simulation proceeds.
** ~~~ ** ...this problem for this pair will not be reported again.
** Warning ** GetSurfaceData: Construction PLANCHER INTERNE HDV ST BRIEUC of interzone surface 5R%2COMBLES:ZONE6_FLOOR_0_0_0 does not have the same materials in the reverse order as the construction PLANCHER INTERNE HDV ST BRIEUC_REV of adjacent surface 4R%4:ZONE28_CEILING_5_0_10038
** ~~~ ** ...but Nominal U values are similar, diff=[0.0000] ... simulation proceeds.
** ~~~ ** ...this problem for this pair will not be reported again.
** Warning ** GetSurfaceData: CAUTION -- Interzone surfaces are occuring in the same zone(s).
** ~~~ ** ...use Output:Diagnostics,DisplayExtraWarnings; to show more details on individual occurrences.
** Warning ** GetSurfaceData: Entered Zone Floor Areas differ from calculated Zone Floor Area(s).
** ~~~ ** ...use Output:Diagnostics,DisplayExtraWarnings; to show more details on individual zones.
** Warning ** GetSurfaceData: The total number of floors, walls, roofs and internal mass surfaces in Zone TOITVERRIERE:ZONE1
** ~~~ ** is < 6. This may cause an inaccurate zone heat balance calculation.
** Warning ** GetSurfaceData: The total number of floors, walls, roofs and internal mass surfaces in Zone TOITSALLEDESMARIAGES:ZONE1
** ~~~ ** is < 6. This may cause an inaccurate zone heat balance calculation.
** Warning ** GetSurfaceData: There are 149 window/glass door(s) that may cause inaccurate shadowing due to Solar Distribution.
** ~~~ ** For explicit details on each window, use Output:Diagnostics,DisplayExtraWarnings;
** Warning ** No floor exists in Zone="BLOC24:ZONE1", zone floor area is zero. All values for this zone that are entered per floor area will be zero.
************* Note that the following warning(s) may/will occur if you have not enclosed your zone completely.
** Warning ** Entered Zone Volumes differ from calculated zone volume(s).
** ~~~ ** ...use Output:Diagnostics,DisplayExtraWarnings; to show more details on individual zones.
** Warning ** No floor exists in Zone="BLOC3:ZONE1", zone floor area is zero. All values for this zone that are entered per floor area will be zero.
** Warning ** No floor exists in Zone="BLOC5:ZONE1", zone floor area is zero. All values for this zone that are entered per floor area will be zero.
** Warning ** No floor exists in Zone="BLOC6:ZONE1", zone floor area is zero. All values for this zone that are entered per floor area will be zero.
** Warning ** No floor exists in Zone="BLOC8:ZONE1", zone floor area is zero. All values for this zone that are entered per floor area will be zero.
** Warning ** No floor exists in Zone="BLOC9:ZONE1", zone floor area is zero. All values for this zone that are entered per floor area will be zero.
** Warning ** No floor exists in Zone="BLOC25:ZONE1", zone floor area is zero. All values for this zone that are entered per floor area will be zero.
** Warning ** No floor exists in Zone="BLOC26:ZONE1", zone floor area is zero. All values for this zone that are entered per floor area will be zero.
** Warning ** No floor exists in Zone="BLOC27:ZONE1", zone floor area is zero. All values for this zone that are entered per floor area will be zero.
** Warning ** No floor exists in Zone="BLOC1:ZONE1", zone floor area is zero. All values for this zone that are entered per floor area will be zero.
** Warning ** No floor exists in Zone="BLOC2:ZONE1", zone floor area is zero. All values for this zone that are entered per floor area will be zero.
** Warning ** No floor exists in Zone="BLOC4:ZONE1", zone floor area is zero. All values for this zone that are entered per floor area will be zero.
** Warning ** No floor exists in Zone="BLOC7:ZONE1", zone floor area is zero. All values for this zone that are entered per floor area will be zero.
** Warning ** No floor exists in Zone="BLOC10:ZONE1", zone floor area is zero. All values for this zone that are entered per floor area will be zero.
** Warning ** No floor exists in Zone="BLOC11:ZONE1", zone floor area is zero. All values for this zone that are entered per floor area will be zero.
** Warning ** No floor exists in Zone="BLOC12:ZONE1", zone floor area is zero. All values for this zone that are entered per floor area will be zero.
** Warning ** No floor exists in Zone="BLOC13:ZONE1", zone floor area is zero. All values for this zone that are entered per floor area will be zero.
** Warning ** No floor exists in Zone="BLOC14:ZONE1", zone floor area is zero. All values for this zone that are entered per floor area will be zero.
** Warning ** No floor exists in Zone="BLOC15:ZONE1", zone floor area is zero. All values for this zone that are entered per floor area will be zero.
** Warning ** No floor exists in Zone="BLOC16:ZONE1", zone floor area is zero. All values for this zone that are entered per floor area will be zero.
** Warning ** CheckUsedConstructions: There are 8 nominally unused constructions in input.
** ~~~ ** For explicit details on each unused construction, use Output:Diagnostics,DisplayExtraWarnings;
** Warning ** ComputeIntSolarAbsorpFactors: Solar distribution model is set to place solar gains on the zone floor,
** ~~~ ** ...Zone="BLOC24:ZONE1" has no floor, but has approximate horizontal surfaces.
** ~~~ ** ...these Tilt > 120°, (area=[0.32] m2) will be used.
** Warning ** ComputeIntSolarAbsorpFactors: Solar distribution model is set to place solar gains on the zone floor,
** ~~~ ** ...Zone="BLOC3:ZONE1" has no floor, but has approximate horizontal surfaces.
** ~~~ ** ...these Tilt > 120°, (area=[3.52] m2) will be used.
** Warning ** ComputeIntSolarAbsorpFactors: Solar distribution model is set to place solar gains on the zone floor,
** ~~~ ** ...Zone="BLOC5:ZONE1" has no floor, but has approximate horizontal surfaces.
** ~~~ ** ...these Tilt > 120°, (area=[3.52] m2) will be used.
** Warning ** ComputeIntSolarAbsorpFactors: Solar distribution model is set to place solar gains on the zone floor,
** ~~~ ** ...Zone="BLOC6:ZONE1" has no floor, but has approximate horizontal surfaces.
** ~~~ ** ...these Tilt > 120°, (area=[3.52] m2) will be used.
** Warning ** ComputeIntSolarAbsorpFactors: Solar distribution model is set to place solar gains on the zone floor,
** ~~~ ** ...Zone="BLOC8:ZONE1" has no floor, but has approximate horizontal surfaces.
** ~~~ ** ...these Tilt > 120°, (area=[3.52] m2) will be used.
** Warning ** ComputeIntSolarAbsorpFactors: Solar distribution model is set to place solar gains on the zone floor,
** ~~~ ** ...Zone="BLOC9:ZONE1" has no floor, but has approximate horizontal surfaces.
** ~~~ ** ...these Tilt > 120°, (area=[3.52] m2) will be used.
** Warning ** ComputeIntSolarAbsorpFactors: Solar distribution model is set to place solar gains on the zone floor,
** ~~~ ** ...Zone="BLOC25:ZONE1" has no floor, but has approximate horizontal surfaces.
** ~~~ ** ...these Tilt > 120°, (area=[3.52] m2) will be used.
** Warning ** ComputeIntSolarAbsorpFactors: Solar distribution model is set to place solar gains on the zone floor,
** ~~~ ** ...Zone="BLOC26:ZONE1" has no floor, but has approximate horizontal surfaces.
** ~~~ ** ...these Tilt > 120°, (area=[3.52] m2) will be used.
** Warning ** ComputeIntSolarAbsorpFactors: Solar distribution model is set to place solar gains on the zone floor,
** ~~~ ** ...Zone="BLOC27:ZONE1" has no floor, but has approximate horizontal surfaces.
** ~~~ ** ...these Tilt > 120°, (area=[3.52] m2) will be used.
** Warning ** ComputeIntSolarAbsorpFactors: Solar distribution model is set to place solar gains on the zone floor,
** ~~~ ** ...Zone="BLOC1:ZONE1" has no floor, but has approximate horizontal surfaces.
** ~~~ ** ...these Tilt > 120°, (area=[0.32] m2) will be used.
** Warning ** ComputeIntSolarAbsorpFactors: Solar distribution model is set to place solar gains on the zone floor,
** ~~~ ** ...Zone="BLOC2:ZONE1" has no floor, but has approximate horizontal surfaces.
** ~~~ ** ...these Tilt > 120°, (area=[0.32] m2) will be used.
** Warning ** ComputeIntSolarAbsorpFactors: Solar distribution model is set to place solar gains on the zone floor,
** ~~~ ** ...Zone="BLOC4:ZONE1" has no floor, but has approximate horizontal surfaces.
** ~~~ ** ...these Tilt > 120°, (area=[3.52] m2) will be used.
** Warning ** ComputeIntSolarAbsorpFactors: Solar distribution model is set to place solar gains on the zone floor,
** ~~~ ** ...Zone="BLOC7:ZONE1" has no floor, but has approximate horizontal surfaces.
** ~~~ ** ...these Tilt > 120°, (area=[3.52] m2) will be used.
** Warning ** ComputeIntSolarAbsorpFactors: Solar distribution model is set to place solar gains on the zone floor,
** ~~~ ** ...Zone="BLOC10:ZONE1" has no floor, but has approximate horizontal surfaces.
** ~~~ ** ...these Tilt > 120°, (area=[3.52] m2) will be used.
** Warning ** ComputeIntSolarAbsorpFactors: Solar distribution model is set to place solar gains on the zone floor,
** ~~~ ** ...Zone="BLOC11:ZONE1" has no floor, but has approximate horizontal surfaces.
** ~~~ ** ...these Tilt > 120°, (area=[0.32] m2) will be used.
** Warning ** ComputeIntSolarAbsorpFactors: Solar distribution model is set to place solar gains on the zone floor,
** ~~~ ** ...Zone="BLOC12:ZONE1" has no floor, but has approximate horizontal surfaces.
** ~~~ ** ...these Tilt > 120°, (area=[0.32] m2) will be used.
** Warning ** ComputeIntSolarAbsorpFactors: Solar distribution model is set to place solar gains on the zone floor,
** ~~~ ** ...Zone="BLOC13:ZONE1" has no floor, but has approximate horizontal surfaces.
** ~~~ ** ...these Tilt > 120°, (area=[0.32] m2) will be used.
** Warning ** ComputeIntSolarAbsorpFactors: Solar distribution model is set to place solar gains on the zone floor,
** ~~~ ** ...Zone="BLOC14:ZONE1" has no floor, but has approximate horizontal surfaces.
** ~~~ ** ...these Tilt > 120°, (area=[0.32] m2) will be used.
** Warning ** ComputeIntSolarAbsorpFactors: Solar distribution model is set to place solar gains on the zone floor,
** ~~~ ** ...Zone="BLOC15:ZONE1" has no floor, but has approximate horizontal surfaces.
** ~~~ ** ...these Tilt > 120°, (area=[0.32] m2) will be used.
** Warning ** ComputeIntSolarAbsorpFactors: Solar distribution model is set to place solar gains on the zone floor,
** ~~~ ** ...Zone="BLOC16:ZONE1" has no floor, but has approximate horizontal surfaces.
** ~~~ ** ...these Tilt > 120°, (area=[0.32] m2) will be used.
** Severe ** Temperature (low) out of bounds [-239.89] for zone="BLOC15:ZONE1", for surface="BLOC15:ZONE1_WALL_9_0_0"
** ~~~ ** During Warmup & Sizing, Environment=SUMMER DESIGN DAY IN HÔTEL DE VILLE SAINT-BRIEUC, at Simulation time=07/15 08:30 - 08:32
** ~~~ ** Zone="BLOC15:ZONE1", Diagnostic Details:
** ~~~ ** ...Internal Heat Gain [0.000] W/m2
** ~~~ ** ...Infiltration/Ventilation [2.290E-003] m3/s
** ~~~ ** ...Mixing/Cross Mixing [0.000] m3/s
** ~~~ ** ...Zone is part of HVAC controlled system.
** Fatal ** CalcHeatBalanceInsideSurf: Program terminates due to preceding conditions.
...Summary of Errors that led to program termination:
..... Reference severe error count=1
..... Last severe error=Temperature (low) out of bounds [-239.89] for zone="BLOC15:ZONE1", for surface="BLOC15:ZONE1_WALL_9_0_0"
************* Warning: Node connection errors not checked - most system input has not been read (see previous warning).
************* Fatal error -- final processing. Program exited before simulations began. See previous error messages.
*************
************* ===== Recurring Error Summary =====
************* The following recurring error messages occurred.
*************
************* ** Severe ** Temperature (low) out of bounds for zone=BLOC15:ZONE1 for surface=BLOC15:ZONE1_WALL_9_0_0
************* ** ~~~ ** This error occurred 1 total times;
************* ** ~~~ ** during Warmup 1 times;
************* ** ~~~ ** during Sizing 1 times.
************* ** ~~~ ** Max=-239.888339 C Min=-239.888339 C
*************
*************
************* ===== Final Error Summary =====
************* The following error categories occurred. Consider correcting or noting.
************* Interzone surfaces - different zones
************* Temperature (low) out of bounds
************* ..A temperature out of bounds problem can be caused by several things. The user should check:
************* ..1) the weather environment (including the horizontal IR from sky)
************* ..2) the level of interal gains with respect to the zone
************* ..3) the thermal properties of their materials. And other things.
************* ..A common cause is a building with no or little thermal mass - all materials with Material:NoMassdefinitions.
************* Nominally Unused Constructions
************* ..The nominally unused constructions warning is provided to alert you to potential conditions that can cause
************* ..extra time during simulation. Each construction is calculated by the algorithm indicated in the HeatBalanceAlgorithm
************* ..object. You may remove the constructions indicated (when you use the DisplayExtraWarnings option).
*************
************* EnergyPlus Warmup Error Summary. During Warmup: 0 Warning; 0 Severe Errors.
************* EnergyPlus Sizing Error Summary. During Sizing: 49 Warning; 0 Severe Errors.
************* EnergyPlus Terminated--Fatal Error Detected. 199 Warning; 1 Severe Errors; Elapsed Time=00hr 12min 58.48sec

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